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037. Building Complete Creative Independence | feat. The Orchestrator

How ownership, royalties, and strategic thinking offer artistic options

What does it take to release 200 digital singles in a single day and earn a Guinness World Record in the process? More importantly, what can that teach us about building a truly sustainable music career?

In this episode, I sit down with The Orchestrator, a self-taught saxophonist whose approach to the music business is as methodical as it is inspiring. His philosophy centers on complete independence: owning your masters, understanding every revenue stream, and building passive income that allows you to create art without compromise.

The Orchestrator shares his journey from learning Antonio Carlos Jobim classics to developing a bossa nova and jazz-focused catalog that generates sustainable income. But this isn't just about music. The Orchestrator highlights the importance of financial literacy, strategic thinking, and maintaining artistic integrity in an industry that often demands the opposite.


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Three Game-Changing Takeaways

1. Complete Ownership Creates Freedom

Owning your masters, publishing, and trademarks isn't just about money—it's about maintaining the power to pivot and make decisions without outside interference. True artistic and financial independence starts with ownership.

2. Diversify Your Revenue Streams

Streaming royalties from distributors represent only a fraction of what your music can earn. Register with PROs, SoundExchange, and Songtrust to collect all available royalties and build sustainable passive income.

3. Financial Stability Enables Better Art

When your bills are covered by passive income, you can focus on creating art for art's sake rather than compromising your vision for short-term financial gains.


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What We Cover

The Craft:

  • His daily saxophone practice routine and self-taught approach

  • Learning classic tunes and developing unique variations

  • The influence of Stan Getz and Antonio Carlos Jobim on his sound

The Business:

  • Complete breakdown of music royalty percentages and splits beyond streaming

  • Why he chose long-term passive income over performance-based career paths

  • The importance of trademarking your business and catalog ownership

The Strategy:

  • Grassroots promotion and direct fan engagement through social media

  • Leveraging streaming data and algorithms for strategic marketing

  • The story behind his Guinness World Record and what it taught him about differentiation

The Philosophy:

  • Building financial independence to maintain artistic integrity

  • Investing in businesses that align with personal values

  • Working smart vs. working hard in music promotion


Essential Resources Mentioned

Must-Read Books:

Albums That Shaped His Sound:

Revenue Collection Services:

  • SoundExchange (international performance royalties)

  • Songtrust (publishing royalties)

  • ASCAP (performing rights organization)

  • BMI (performing rights organization)

  • Sticker Mule (promotional stickers for fan engagement)


Chapter Timestamps

  • 0:00 - Intro and music business disclaimer

  • 2:24 - Saxophone practice routine deep dive

  • 4:44 - Learning Jobim and the Stan Getz influence

  • 11:57 - Music ownership philosophy and trademark importance

  • 16:33 - Choosing passive income over performance careers

  • 19:26 - Complete breakdown of music royalty splits

  • 25:18 - Grassroots promotion and social media strategies

  • 35:53 - Building sustainable income through streaming diversification

  • 45:58 - The Guinness World Record strategy

  • 52:46 - Building financial freedom with integrity (2000 days sober)

  • 1:00:02 - The story behind releasing 200 songs in one day

  • 1:04:50 - Self-taught saxophone journey

  • 1:12:36 - Breaking free from corporate control and honoring Black culture in electronic music


Connect with The Orchestrator


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A Final Thought

The Orchestrator's approach challenges the conventional wisdom that musicians must choose between artistic integrity and financial success. His story proves that with the right knowledge, strategic thinking, and commitment to ownership, you can build a career that serves both your creative vision and your financial goals.

The question isn't whether you can afford to own your masters—it's whether you can afford not to.

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This episode was co-produced, engineered and edited by Matthew Diaz. From ProducerHead, this is Toru, and in a way, so are you. Peace.

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